Update 5th May 2010
Steve Renner got sentenced to 18 months in prison because of tax evasion more information: click here.
Other investigations regarding running a possible Ponzi / Pyramid scheme, suspicion of money laundry etc are ongoing.
Update 23rd February 2010
This was just published by the Startribune: “Secret Service agents removed evidence from a Minneapolis business owned by local musician Steve Renner Tuesday morning in what authorities are calling a suspected Ponzi scheme. The offices of Inter-Mark Corp divisions iNetGlobal, V-Local and V-Webs at 250 2nd Av. S. in downtown Minneapolis were raided.” Read the full article here: http://www.startribune.com/local/85054067.html
Original blog post from 3rd September 2009:
For the superficial readers: Yes, Inetglobal is a scam and a really bad one. Stay away from them and save your money! For the ones that want to have some more background information, here you go:
As I surfed today around the blogosphere (a lot of my posts start lately like this 
) I came across a blog comment with a “last blog post” headline reading “Make $$,$$$ Per Month”. The blog itself was called something ridiculous like “I want to become a billionaire in less than 5 years.” OK, OK, I hear you saying, why did I even waste time to look closer at something that is so obviously spammy? Very easy, I am naturally curious So, I took a closer look and found out how it works.
BTW, the system described is not restricted to Inetglobal, the same system to scam people is used by many other web sites. It is also known as a Ponzi scam or pyramid scheme. The sales pitch goes like this:
- You sign up for a free account. (That is the only free thing in the whole process!)
- You spend 8 minutes a day to earn a six figure income by looking at 24 websites a day for 20 seconds each, for a total of 8 minutes a day. (That is a the scam part)
The reality / scam goes like this:
- You sign up for a free account.
- You buy a “Consultant Kit” for “only” $59.95.
- You buy an advertising package for hundreds, up to thousands, of dollars which “allows you” to upload your own site into the system.
- You start to look at / surf web sites, for this “looking at / surfing of web sites” you get paid.
- You refer others to do the same and get a share of what they pay to Inetglobal. That is where the pyramid scheme becomes really obvious.
Do you see it now? It is nothing else then a Ponzi or pyramid scheme. Inetglobal, and similar web sites, make money only by selling their kits and packages, NOT by selling advertising. You only earn, if you ever get paid, if enough people after you buy into the scam.
Be also aware that your account will be set to a “daily re-purchase”, means your credit card will get continuously charged and drained until you are in deep debts.
See it from the other side, the site of a potential advertiser. If you would want to advertise your web site, would you choose a service that pays people just to stare at your web site? What would be the benefit for you, the web site owner? Empty, non-buying traffic and a huge waste of money and a lesser waste of bandwidth.
The only way to actually make money from this program, if you ever get to cash it out, is to sell it on to your family, friends and blog readers. But who would do that? Would you really try to convince people to buy into something what you know to be a scam just to make a buck or two?
And the biggest joke to close up this blog post about the Inetglobal scam, they don’t allow other Ponzi Scheme, and similar, being uploaded to their advertising program. Seems they are afraid of the competition! Directly from their TOS:
Prohibited Sites include:
* Illegal business schemes
* Get Rich Quick
* Ponzi Scheme
* Pay To Surf
* Scam Sites
I would LMAO if it wouldn’t be so sad! Please save your money and stay far, far away from the Inetglobal scam and similar sites.
@ a point of View
I wouldn’t do it on IBM or Sony.
How about Toyota?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35781956/ns/business-autos
It’s not what iNetGlobal’s enlisted internet business problematic.
It’s the who is running it and how it is run, namely, compensation plan and its operations.
Where are the “dream team” this days? Are they still with “Runner”?
I agreed with you ,most time is the people who are evil make bad thing happen. check out a great opportunity here {link removed by blog owner}
@Y.C Thank you for posting the info here.
“…70,000 Customers, Consultants…” — How many (or %) of them really understand they have been titled either as “Customer” or “Consultant”? and how many (or %) of them have got the news or known what is going with their $2,000 receiver company today?
In america, there is saying “Fool me once, shame …, fool twice …” Please no third time…!
LG, you can’t even conceive a basic idea or statement at Grade 1 English level. Why should anyone listen to your advice when it comes to iNetGlobal?
This is not the place to offer advice but raise questions… “Like me” many members/consultants of iNetGlobal do have English below Grade 1 Level. Are you ESL consultant, Anonim?
Revision what I wrote before: “Fool me once shame on you, fool twice shame on me, fool me the third time I am stupid.” ;]
Whatever buddy, I think that I’m quite convinced now. Keep going the way you are, it suits you just right.
Have a point Anonim (but not iPoints which are almost worth nothing right now) as your English is so good.
many people join the inetglobal dont know what is going on if the leader dont train them well and gave them the right info…. what a poor people.
Has anyone heard of ACN? It seems to be similar to inetglobal but they are still in business and have been for a very long time. They have products but they make a huge amount from membership fees.
It seems that inetglobal’s funds have been frozen but the website continues to operate with updates to accounts; that’s strange…why are people still working there? I guess until the decision is made that it is a fraud (ponzi) and not sure when, it will be considered innocent until guilty!!!!!!!!!!
Acn is a legal company ,they are the member of direct sale association . but their margin is low profit, not recommended business opportunity. and inetglobal is having ongoing court process. not failed yet ,that is company still there. they probably get to win to stay in business ,but with a big change in the future.
On Secret Service AFFIDAVIT given by KATHERINE WESPETAL, at the end of paragraph 66:
Quote:
… Renner stated that iNetGlobal’s search engine, Access, would soon rival Google’s. Renner did not explain to the crowd that Access was simply a link to another search engine, and that an Access web search was just the same as a web search on this other search engine. Internal-emails discuss the possibility of the other search engine cutting the link and thus taking down Access. Keough also confirmed that Access simply links to another search engine.
Unquote:
QUESTION (1): Does anybody know which search engine is the search engine indicated in the affidavit to which @cesse.com is actually linked to?
…in the Affidivate, word “acesse” is misspelled as access, it meant the same http://www.acesse.com from Steve Renner.
This is a March/8th post by Steve Renner on steverenner.com
Quote:
The acesse.com Search Engine crew has teamed up with some great developers from the UK to create the new Acesse Maps. The new Maps will have all the standard functionality as Bing Maps including the highly popular “Birds Eye” view.
Unquote:
The partner Renner referred to in the blog is earthware.com. Given @cesse.com is a link and can not hold its own, the “map” so to speak should likely be another link as well – resulting in a portion of the content from one site showing in the frame of @cesse.com site.
I do ,the company has some legal issue need to deal with ,and the money is frozen by the fed people. they still running the website ,but dont get paid for now. so they told the member other excuse about the website is down for maitenannce.
i think the acesse is the tech form inetglobal ,but the search engine is a poor tech one
Preparing for bigger waves!
InetGlobal is currently down for maintenance.
We’ll to be back by 12:00pm CST
so unworried ,just wait to see what’s happend
Preparing for bigger waves!
InetGlobal is currently down for maintenance.
We’ll to be back by 12:00am CST on Saturday, March 13th.
what’s we can do?
is there some one know what’s exactly happened
{double comment removed by blog owner}
@christie
Renner himself told me it was yahoo. I questioned him about the irrelevent ads being posted when doing online searches. He blamed it on the advertiser not know how to choose their key words.
He also claimed that they were going to fix it so that if they didn’t have relevant PPC ads to display they would be able to feed ads from “yahoo search” thereby earning revenue the could pay their surfers.
He also claimed they were developing their own search engine to replace Yahoo/Bing.
Private labeling of search engine is not that big of a deal. I use one that has been private labeled for the Indianapolis Colts football team. I earn Colts Bucks which I can redeem for merchandise. Big difference is I earn the bucks when I seach. I don’t earn by clicking on a paying advertisers ad that I could care less in viewing with the exception of getting paid.
Any intellegent person should see it defies all logic and reasoning that an advertiser would think its OK to pay for ads that people could care less about and are doing it to get paid. Unless, of course the advertisers are playing the same game.
If you can’t see this then I have some tulips you can invest in.
FYI – after making my previous posts, my friend who took me to meet Renner received a call wanting to know why I was making these posts. The next day I got a call from inet but no one left a message.
@mike maunu
I can fully understand what you mean. People can always see they’re throwing money for nothing, that’s why it is so difficult to sell those ads (to be placed on the rotator). Even as we speak, placing ads on @acesse.com meant nothing as long as only iNet people frequent it.
I agree private labeling search engines aren’t big deal, I bet Renner is not the first person who did it.
You would think a map would be fine if you contain it in a frame of your own website and call it your own, here we have a search engine, a big elephant. Maybe there are no differences, as some database will always get shared between search engines to enhance the search result, however, we’re talking about something quite large here, quite gutsy, an eye opener to me. I must say I’ve learned a lot.
Just heard, RGMG.net was registered in the name of Matt Renner on March 2nd, V-Local is main thing to be promoted on RGMG. Now I am sort getting it why all these companies (iNetGlobal, and the V-theme) each is found as a different entity, ditch one if it doesn’t work, also quite convenient to move them around.
“If you can’t see this then I have some tulips you can invest in.” Nice one Mike, I wonder how many of the Inetglobal supporters get the hint. Here link for the ones interested to know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
SY
You meant to invest in something that is actually empty!
People, people… this is just a blog where anyone can write whatever they want without being responsible because the internet operates in such a way where responsibility and integrity are a things of the past. You can say anything, whether true or not. For example, I can write stuff about your mother and how cute and naughty she is when she hangs around with her boss after 6 PM. I can even say how she did it in bed very graphically without any restraint because internet is free, freedom of expression is free and I’m not responsible for my comments and actions because we live in a free society where tolerance is promoted above morals and family value. So, if you truly respect yourself and those around you, don’t take advice from internet blogs, they are poisonous to your self esteem and success. Check this out http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2005/1114/128.html
Ali Baba
The article you linked to is from 2005, the blogosphere has developed since then. The things I have written about Inetglobal are my opinion based on facts that were freely available to see and find and read for everybody that can do a simple research on the internet. Simply stating that “don’t take advice from internet blogs, they are poisonous to your self esteem and success.” is very general. There are good blogs and bad blogs around, you have to use your common sense to see which falls in which category. SY
By JAMES WALSH, Star Tribune
Last update: March 15, 2010 – 9:09 PM
Renner’s attorney, Jon Hopeman, told Frank that no crime was committed at iNetGlobal or Inter-Mark. Hopeman said that he initially viewed Renner’s businesses “with some considerable skepticism.” But after researching the company, Hopeman said, “I have become convinced, your honor, that this is a legitimate business that sells real services, Internet services.”
Hopeman said the government’s hold on the company’s assets is keeping Inter-Mark from paying its more than 70 employees, or paying for their health insurance. Many of those employees were in the courtroom Monday.
Frank asked the attorneys if some of the frozen funds could be freed to pay people and cover insurance costs, but left the issue open for another date.
In defense of iNetGlobal
Customers Ken and Diane Haugen of Davenport, Iowa, said they have been iNetGlobal customers since August 2008. Using the Internet marketing tools available through iNetGlobal, the couple said they have sold “lots of real estate.”
“The products that they have are the best that they have in the Internet marketing business, bar none,” Ken Haugen said, adding that he and his wife are spreading the word to others around the world. They were in India when they got news of the raid.
“It was shocking,” Diane Haugen said. “It’s about what the U.S. government is doing to destroy small business.”
Mark Kallenbach, an attorney for Inter-Mark, said it has reopened for business. The company website and literature say iNetGlobal has more than 50,000 customers worldwide.
http://www.startribune.com/local/87726342.html?page=2&c=y
Yes, I wrote already about this here: http://hospitalera.com/inetglobal-update-and-this-blogs-future/
BTW We are still waiting for your “big news on Monday on CNN” or something along this lines. You also posted only a link to the second half of the story, here is the first page: http://www.startribune.com/local/87726342.html
Did you notice that Mr. Renner has now to wear a GPS tracking device so that his movements can be monitored? SY
Yes, in America laws must comply. I’m waiting for informational bomb on Monday, March 22
You are really entertaining! How many times have you us now promised “breaking news next Monday”? And nothing ever came… SY
Today is Tuesday the 23rd March and again a Monday has passed without the promised “informational bomb”, it is getting a bit boring by now with you announcing big news to come and then — nothing. SY
I thinks mr renner has his tax evasion issure , not related to inetlgobal ponzi ,so please separate those different issue .and inetglobal is a ok business with a lot of foolish people who join inetglbal thinking about making money by clicking the ads. that is the wrong marketing approach that been told by their leaders. that is bring the whole problem to criminal if they lose the court.
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Last warning, either you leave comments in future in English and only comments that are relevant to the matter discussed here or your comments will not get approved anymore. I am sure you have other ways and means to update Oleg about the well being and whereabouts of yourself and your family, SY
Prosecutor takes the decision on Monday. is not in my power to change Prosecutor decision. be patient
Which Monday?
SY
God knows
It still amazes me that people think just because you have a few services that are legit your whole program is legit.
Madoff did a lot of legit things with the money he collected from his ponzi scheme. Does that mean it was all legit?
Of course not! It’s called smoke and mirrors.
That is the point a lot of people don’t get, for example a shop sells grocery and illegal “services” at the same time. The shop will be closed and the shop owner will have to face a law case. That he sold also legal products together with illegal ones at the same time doesn’t “legalize” the illegal ones. Just an example to illustrate my point, SY
Well ,part of what you saying is true .so we need to find out what is the real truth of those products and services. but our world philosophy is twisted .you cant really understand what is good and bad out there anymore. just my point of view.
After I read the news on the internet, I found out that the following is not correct,
“investigators allege that Renner’s companies sell few, if any, real services. Instead, they say, the companies make money by continually enrolling new customers, or “members,” into a marketing club.”
What I think about the Inetglobal product is: when the members purchase the Adpacs, it is the advertising space on Inetsurf, same as if they buy 30sconds advertising space at TV station or Radio station. Advertising space is a product! The price is much more cheaper than they pay for those traditional TV and radio channels.With the adpacs package, memebrs can use many of the services such as V-webs, V-mail,V-local, V-webcast… and the comprehensive platform can help the customer set up an online business easily.
I think the concept is: Inetglobal is a self help online promoting and marketing program for marketers.
Many small buiness don’t have the internet or computer skills at the beginning, and they don’t have enough resources to build up their own online business. With Inetglobal, they have everything they need and no headache to organize the product package.
Individuals can create the online business because no need to rent the phsical space and no need to sell the physical products. There are so many successful online marketer just providing the intangible services. The roles of these individual can be very flexible. They can be customers, marketers and advertisers in internet businesses. So, some inetglobal members can start with customers and learn to be a marketer.
How can the members become an Ineglobal marketers ? Inetglobal teams have very organized training systems. For one of the Chinese team, they has anniezhang.com for the training blog. All the training schedules are listed. The members use the Inetglobal products V-webcast to take the classes. They have 12 classes for the big team and numerous trainings for the small team every week. All the members are welcome to learn the concept and the proucts. Each class, there are always 100-1000 memebrs attend for learning. It is like an online technical school. After the members learn how to use these products, they can use themselves and they can sell the products such as v-webs, v-local,v-mail…
It takes little some time for learning, and many customers are doing well with this learning system, it is no extra costs and no stress. They can pick up the training videos and ppts on the training website at their own schedules. All these professional products, many people didn’t learn in the universities but they can easy to learn and understand with Inetglobal.
Knowledge is the product!!!
The FBI investigators went to the New York Conference, and they claimed they talked to some members who didn’t or couldn’t use the proudcts. That is normal for some new members. It has a process from beginner to medium and to high level. Also, some members are good at marketing, some members are good at technical skills, and some members are good at other things…
Who is going to be an expert in all aspects of their lives?? Team work is the most important!!
FBI should at least ask members opions all around the world, not just few new members in Newyork and made a seizure to the Inetglobal office.
This is not fair!
About Steve Keough, he is racist. He pointed out most of the Inetglobal are Chinese and the Chinese couldn’t understand English and would not use the Inetlgobal products. This is ridicoulous! Chinese people are smart enough to live in North America even without the English speaking skills. Many chinese can read and write little bit, but can’t speak well. There are lots of online translators can help Chinese people to read all kinds of languages. Also, Chinese people can make the smart decisions to buy the good products as other smart English speakers.
Steve Keough should not fire with all Inetlgobal members with racism because he had fired by the company. His selfishness waste his life, waste FBI resources, violate all members’consumer rights. He abused his background and knowledge. Inetglobal had hired him as a CEO, he should learn the business first and help the company to enforce the management with his ability. However, his backward, narrow points of view had conflicts with the growing Inetglobal business. He chose the wrong way to tell the world about Inetglobal, his ugliness have exposed under the whole world’ spit.
I support Inetglobal and I believe it is creating the future.
I believe the judge and FBI can understand this.
In this severe economic environment, Inetglobal had created such a great success. This should be the business model for the new era. The Government should support this entrepreneurship
Jessica
Jessica
I found that you posted exactly the same comment already on another blog. Have you actually taken the time to read the affidavit posted here http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/ ? That is the evidence the FBI had BEFORE they searched the offices of Inetglobal, the evidence that prompted the judge to issue a search warrant in the first place. Read it, it might open your eyes!
As for the actually value these adpacs have; lets say if you were in the business of selling bicycles online, what kind of people would you prefer come to your site:
People that search for “buy bicycle” in a search engine or
Random people that get paid to look at random websites?
Who is more likely to buy your bicycles?
As for the trainings videos ( I decided to leave the link in, so that people can see them) Have you noticed what kind of business is promoted in the first video? The first trainings video is about how to promote your own inetglobal-affiliate-subpage. Exactly that was said over and over again, Inetglobal is about to sign other people up to Inetglobal that sign other people up to… And, additionally I couldn’t find any possibility on inetglobal.com to buy “v-webs, v-local,v-mail” or any of their other products without signing first up with them as a consultant or at least as a free surfer. Any other web hosting I ever used, lets me straight purchase the product I want without any loops and hoops.
As for insulting Mr. Keough, I don’t think that will bring you anywhere. And calling him a racist is turning things completely around, he expressed his concern that people will buy products and memberships without fully understanding the implications. He was and is protecting the most vulnerable ones!
Have you read the comments here of people that never made their investment back and know that they never will? I have a whole bunch of emails with a similar content sitting in my inbox. People that got persuaded by other people, often friends and family, to sign up and spend money. And now this people have to face the truth that, most likely, they will never see their money back!
And one last thing, I suppose you have signed up people to Inetglobal, have you explained and disclosed to them that you earn money when they sign up through you? If not, you are in breach of FTC regulations. Just something to think about, SY
ya ,because you do not understand internet marekting much ,jessica.
the inetglobal ratator program is not bring you and google traffic and optimized your pages according to the google policy . and many website provide rotate traffic or traffic exchange for free with more ads to be watched by poeple. so i dont think what you say is right.
but the real service i think is the hosting service ,that is pretty good and real deal. and regarding to the v-local . we have to see if they really optimized the website to other search engine. still need to be evaluated.
@ SY
Great job in telling Jessica.
People like these are the reason why people like Madoff and and now it appears Renner can do what they do.
Hello?
thanks for your advice, I don’t want to insult anyone,I’m sorry about that, but I want all Inetglobal members don’t get hurt. All Inetglobal members now are hurt by Mr Steve Keough. I also want to speak out what I know about Inetlgobal, all I’m saying is based on truth!
Here is the revised version of my opinions about Inetglobal.
What I think about the Inetglobal product is: when the members purchase the Adpacs, it is the advertising space on Inetsurf, same as if they buy 30seconds advertising space at TV station or Radio station. Advertising space is a product! The price is much more cheaper than they pay for those traditional TV and radio channels.With the adpacs package, memebrs can use many of the services such as V-webs, V-mail,V-local, V-webcast… and the comprehensive platform can help the customer set up an online business easily.
I think the concept is: Inetglobal is a self-help online promoting and marketing program for marketers.
Many small buiness don’t have the internet or computer skills at the beginning, and they don’t have enough resources to build up their own online business. With Inetglobal, they have everything they need and no headache. All members around the world can easily post their ads on Inetsurf and they read each others’ ads, this will form an real international online free market in the near future! At the begining, some members may just read other ads, but they can buy anytime if they see something they want! It depends what kinds of the goods are available! Every online surfer are doing the same thing!
Inetglobal also helps individuals to create the online business. Individuals can start to be a surfer or marketers. Internet marketers can be very successful just providing the intangible services. The roles of these individuals can be very flexible. They can be customers, marketers and advertisers in internet businesses. Lots of individuals will form a Inetlgobal community as they are related to each other. This will create a very good communication atomsphere among members!
How can the members become an Inetglobal marketers? Inetglobal teams have very organized training systems. For one of the Chinese team, they has {link removed} for the training blog. All the training schedules are listed. The members use the Inetglobal products V-webcast to take the classes. They have 12 classes for the big team and numerous trainings for the small team every week. All the members are welcome to learn the concept and the proucts. Each class, there are always 100-1000 members attend for learning. It is like an online technical school. After the members learn how to use these products, they can use themselves and they can sell the products such as v-webs, v-local,v-mail… Lots of members have learned how to make websites, blogs and got benefits from this trainings. Other internet also have good services and products, but mostly for with well computer skills people. Inetglobal services and products can help no or littel computer skills people to be more educated and create the online business from scratch! Majority people need the services which Inetglobal provides!!!
It takes little some time for learning, and many customers are doing well with this learning system, it is no extra costs and no stress. They can pick up the training videos and ppts on the training website at their own schedules. All these professional products, many people didn’t learn in the universities but they can easy to learn and understand with Inetglobal.
Knowledge is the product!!!
The FBI investigators went to the New York Conference, and they claimed they talked to some members who didn’t or couldn’t use the products. That is normal for some new members. It has a process from beginner to medium and to high level. Also, some members are good at marketing, some members are good at technical skills, and some members are good at other things… FBI only took a small sample of inetglobal’s members. They are not representatives of what the inetglobal members at large. There are excellent Inetglobal members from different levels of the society, many with excellent academic, business, market, computer and management credentials. It is unfortunate they only asked a few new members that happen to speak very little English or did not study the inetglobal business model yet!
Also, who is going to be an expert in all aspects of their lives?? Team work is the most important!!
FBI should at least ask members opinions all around the world, not just few new members in Newyork and made a seizure to the Inetglobal office.
This is not fair!
FBI’s investigation was based the report from Steve Keough. He pointed out most of the Inetglobal members are Chinese and the Chinese couldn’t understand English and would not use the Inetlgobal products. That why he questioned about the business model. This was ridiculous !This underestimated the power of Chinese and internet business. Chinese people are smart enough to live in North America even without the English speaking skills. Many chinese can read and write little bit, but can’t speak well. There are lots of online translators can help Chinese people to read all kinds of languages. Also, Chinese people can make the smart decisions to buy the good products as other smart English speakers. Many chinese people have business and entrepreniural skills. Many Chinese people understand now Internet marketing is booming now.The internet business is always borderless, goes around whole world. which successful internet company only limits itself to the local market and not look abroad to other markets???
Steve Keough should not fire with all Inetlgobal members after he was fired by the Inetglobal. He wastes his life, wastes FBI resources, violates all members’consumer rights. Actually, he has background and knowledge. Inetglobal had hired him as a CEO, he should learn the business first and help the company to enforce the management with his ability. However, his point of view had great conflicts with the fast growing Inetglobal business wheels.
Steve Keough claimed he want to help Inetglobal members, he should help Inetglobal to unfroze the bank accounts and pay the money back to them immediately. All members will be getting paid in sequences until Inetglobal bank accounts defreeze.
I support Inetglobal and I believe it is creating the future.
I believe the judge and FBI can understand this.
In this severe economic environment, Inetglobal had created such a great success. This should be the business model for the new era. The Government should support and protect this entrepreneurship with suitable guildlinessto in order to compete with the sophisticated international business world.
Jessica, did you actually take the time to READ what I and others here on this blog write? Did you read the affidavit I mentioned? You might also want to read this blog post http://patrickpretty.com/2010/03/08/timeline-suggests-inetglobal-was-pounding-clickbank-vendors-with-traffic-from-china-while-sucking-bandwidth-and-destroying-conversion-stats/ to learn more about good and bad traffic to a website, SY
What ,chinese people cant speak english . what a joke ! it is fully depend to what you talk to , iam chinese too , but i bet i can train most americans how to do inetlgobal business upside down. most chinese people who doing inetlgobal is not educated people .but not all , they just want to make money .that is the fact .bottom line
I’m telling everybody on here right now, DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL!!! DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL!!!! DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL!!!!!
It’s a scam, 100%!!!! When me and my friend joined, we were promised big bucks for just clicking on a few ads a day. At least $8 US minimum per day, plus whatever our downlines click. You know how much we are getting a day? Take a wild guess!!!! $1 to $2 a day, plus we have to pay back $40 from their stupid automated repurchasing plan!!!!! That means we make $0 dollars a month!!!!
Inetglobal is B.S. I hope they’re found guilty. It’s been 4 months now, And I have not received my V-Cash card, nor have I seen a single penny. What a waste of my $2060
Bruce, have you contacted your credit card company? Have you contacted any other organization in your country that might help you to get on a “list of victims” so that, when and if the frozen funds are used to give the victims at least part of their money back, you are included? SY
I’m telling everybody on here right now, DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL!!! DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL!!!! DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL!!!!!
It’s a scam, 100%!!!! I wish I never joined them. When me and my friend first joined, we were promised big bucks for just clicking on a few ads a day. At least $8 US minimum, plus whatever our downlines click. You know how much we are getting a day? Take a wild guess!!!! $1 to $2 a day, plus we have to pay back $40 per month from their stupid automated repurchasing plan!!!!! That means we make pretty much $0 dollars a month!!!!
Inetglobal is B.S. I hope they’re found guilty. It’s been 4 months now, And I have not received my V-Cash card, nor have I seen a single penny. 4 MONTHS ok??!!!! How long does it take to send something from the states? A week or 2? What a waste of my $2060. I hope that Steve Renner guy rots in jail because that’s where he belongs. I just hope the FBI will use the money they froze from his account to pay us something back.
Bruce, please be patient and wait until I approve your comment and don’t double comment the, nearly the same, content.
SY
I am another victim like Bruce. In fact, “list of victims” gets to be very difficult and probably not at this stage as this is a cross-border case and still under investigation now. It’s almost hopeless but probably the US government will do something like prior cases after conclusion of the case.
You also should inform the authorities in your own country then. And, most importantly, your credit card company if you have paid by credit card, SY
Once after deceived, I remove the card information from “my card”. The paid money must have gone, probably there is no use to inform the authorities. I can do nothing save from checking the US government website from times to times. The “friend” who asked me to join, ironically, cashed out in February without telling me anything. I have a headache over the whole week. I tried to cash out without the never-coming v card. Of course, that was denied. I, like the others, hope that there is still something left for restitution but the chance is too slim.
Inform your credit card company and ask them if they can reverse the payment! At least you have then a chance to get on the “list of victims”. As for your friend, if he cashed out, he should be able to give you your money back! SY
I am afraid the answer is NEVER GET BACK ANY – A TOTAL LOSS, my case happened in December last year, when my “friend” first told me, I found annoyng and avoided her a little bit, but soon she mentioned it again and again and while I was busy working, I just followed her without paying any caution any more. The credit card company in fact called me to confirm, I said hold on but I must be crazy and too foolish to tell this “friend” about the call of credit company and she pressed me to go ahead to pay 5000. I only knew She managed to cash out about 2200 and was still asking people to join. I think this company is a crime and I suspect money laundering is going on, Shame!
I read a lot about Inetglobal and I know a lot of Inetglobal members. They have same feeling as I have. We like Inetglobal’s concept and products! For those opponents, some of them are knowledgable but they don’t understand Inetglobal. They have little research but a lot of critique. They should study more and they will agree with me.
Nobody is perfect. At least Inetlgobal is working hard to improve everyday, at least Intglobal is taking care members, at least Inetlgobal is building up bridges for individuals, entrepreneurs, marketers, internet service providers……and the whole world!!! Can they and their friends do it and offer benefits to the societies??
About Click Bank, they should be grateful to Inetlgobal! Click Bank is getting popularity among tens of thousands Inetlgobal members worldwide. Inetglobal has been introducing potential customers to all Click Bank ads. All these create a lot of exposures for Click Bank ads. Who can guarantee a sale just surf an ad? But if there is no exposure, there will be absolutely no result. Click Bank is smart, they see the positive results are building up with Inetglobal members.
Jessica, do you know how Clickbank works? They want buying traffic, not traffic that is paid to just look at websites. Clickbank doesn’t need Inetglobal to get popularity, they are already very popular in their market! And exposure is not the same as buyers coming to a site. I really would suggest that you do some research into the field of internet marketing it seems you have some lack of knowledge on how it really works.
As for the rest of your comment, you might like Inetglobal, but they are still investigated under the suspicion of being ILLEGAL. And what about all the people that lost their “investment” and are reporting this here on this and other blogs? What do you say to them? Oh, and before I forget it, when were you last time able to cash out money from your Inetglobal account into your own bank account? When did you the last time convert their icash into real cash??? SY
Sorry ,jessica ,dont agree with you here ,i think you do not understand internet marketing ,you should be just learning process. and make some arrogant comments there.you should study more about what is the good product and bad one . all the ad rotation is bad traffic that dont have real value most of the time. and people can get exposure from thousand of website for free .those service called traffic exchange which is considered bad one for google. because is human manual traffic that dont have value . ya ,we cant guaranteed the sale to the ads. but if the ads is target to people who interested. that is more conversion rate .that is why they get paid by promoting it .there are whole rules behind interent marketing.
{double comment removed by blog}, SY
Jessica, please refrain from posting the same comment more then once, double comments will be removed, SY
Hi Bruce,
You have wrong mind set, to tell all these. Did you ask if it was reasonable? If I give you $2060, will you pay me minimum $8 + downlines’clicks??? Forever???!!!
Nobody told me about that,Inetglobal Business was never working in that way. As my understanding, when you purchased $59.95 consultant kit, this was the membership fee. $2000 dollars you paid was the advertising space with the comprehensive products which you could make and post and your and your customers ads easily.
If you don’t know about the business, you should go to {link removed}, there is the training schedule, please take the courses and learning. Don’t yell!!!If no understanding.
You could cash out until the seizure to Inetglobal. All the members could cashout if they earned more than 50 dollars, your case, if you were making $8 dollars a day, you should be able to cashout after 1 week.Why you didn’t cashout? If you didn’t cash for 4 months, may be you should learn how to cash out, please go to {link removed} download the ppt file about how to cash out. If the government release the bank accounts, all the members can cashout and everyon will be happy!!!
Jessica, it seems there are a lot of things you don’t understand. I removed the excess links you posted, as I am not willing to allow publicity for Inetglobal on this blog. You have not addressed one single point me and others have made in response to your comments. Don’t you understand the reasons why Inetglobal is under investigation by the FBI et al? SY
Similarities between me and Jessica:
1. I did all the things Jessica is doing now
2. I had a smokescreen over my eyes for a bit
3. I was promoting Inetglobal and refuting good advice
Differences between me and Jessica:
1. I have learnt through mistakes (albeit costly ones)
2. I have stopped promoting Inetglobal
3. I am helping my folks try and get some refunds from thier CC companies
4. I have now realized that basically Inetglobal is a very irresponsible company
Jessica, I have no idea why you refuse to see the truth. I do think you might be a company employee trying to make a last ditch effort to salvage some pride, so that it pays you your Dental benefits for a bit. It might be a good idea to start floating your resume into job sites, rather than continuing to promote Steve Renner. A greedy man belongs to NO ONE. Did you know Steve Rener tried to cash out millions of dollars just one day after he got raided ?? Do you call that ethics ?? How many public statements has he issued since Feb 22nd?? Wake Up Girl and stop promoting this NONSENSE.
Muhammad, it might be an even better idea for you to start floating your resume into job sites. Apparently you’re happy to work for someone on a fixed hourly wage till the day you die. Good for you! I’m tired of working for someone and have worked 9 different jobs since I was 25. Now, at 29, I see just what a mess this work life has been for me, no money, no security, no girlfriend, no fulfilled dreams, but only stress, lack of sleep, frustration and doing the same static stuff from Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 or whatever crazy work shift for just a pathetic, fixed hourly wage. What kind of life is that? I would rather not live than live like that. So, I decided to use iNetGlobal to create residual income and free up my time. My goal is to retire by age 32. 65? Pension? Government aid? Peanuts? No, man, not for me. Government won’t save humanity much less better humanity. I’ve set my mind straight and you can’t change that. If you don’t change your life, life will change you. I’ve decided to change mine. You’ve decided to have life change you. That’s where we part.
SY……not trying to promote Inetglobal. Just got this e-mail from my upline. There’s a webcast tonight at 8.00PM EST. Just incase you or anyone else wanted to see them in action…..here’s a good chance.
Time: Sat(March 20th) 8:00PM(ET)
Speaker:Annie Zhang
Link: http://www.v-webcast.net/annie3
Might be interesting for you as well to learn whats going on in Canada…..Eh SY ?? I would keep the link in for all to see the foolishness they are spreading around.
Cheers
That is fine with me
Do you have a possibility to record / save the webcast? Some of it might not be able to attend it due to different time zones… I am curious to see / hear it myself, SY
Am not a Techie. Know any free software which I can use ??
Not without knowing which format the webcast is in. You could always ask Inetglobal itself *evil thought*, saying you want to save it for re-watching and memorizing. Would not even be a lie… Can you point me to a webcast which is currently online and that has the same format? SY
All I know is that they use http://www.v-train.com tools….LOL. There are no webcasts on line as of now. Also this is a private webcast and they wont provide tools to record it.
Muhammad, you’re just {insult removed by blog owner} without life, purpose and direction. Stop hurting people! It’s enough that we have that other {insult removed by blog owner}, Mr Keough, making a mess out of a wonderful business opportunity. You know what Muhammad, you should get a job and work on fixed hourly wage till the day you die, because you truly deserve it. Let those who want to be financially free, live their own dreams to the max.
Anonim, please refrain from using insults and swearwords in your comments. You are entitled to have an opinion, but please keep it polite or I will not approve your comments. SY
Being a {insult removed} is not an insult but a truth. The offended party does not accept the truth but talks diplomacy.
The offended party didn’t remove your insult, that was me. I like to keep the discussion here on a certain level, SY
Then you did. I can sense how offended you are at iNetGlobal because it is not for you and you look forward to be so self righteous in your quest to expose a scam based on personal opinions. You stated that you never were part of iNetGlobal but only an individual who “took a closer look and found out how it works.” Sorry lady but it doesn’t work that way. You have to do, not spectate and speculate. Too bad that the truth offends you.
@Anonim,
My name is Bill. We would not encourage Inetglobal members to spread abusive language. We are a Gentleman’s company. Mind your language. All these people spreading negativity about Inetglobal will eventually be brought to book. We have served them notices.
Say sorry to Muhammad asap. Steve Renner, Steve Keough, Donny Allen, Steve Allen, Matt Renner, Annie Zhang, Jim Fobair are all there to support you and Inetglobal. We have lots of money to defend ourselves. Annie is busy in Toronto to recruit new members for funding our legal cause. Canadian Dollar is at par with US Dollar. So it is very good. Don’t panic. Make lots of new members, okay. Don’t waste your energy here and sit tight till you hear more. Remember to sit tight till you hear more.
Have a profitable day.
Bill
Hello Bill,
Thanks for your support. I do admit that my personality is that of a fanatic idealist who expects the ultimate in achievement. Some people just turn me off and I feel deep indignation as a result. I always speak my mind and pursue my path to the final conquest.
I apologize to Muhammad and to anyone else who feels offended at my statements and I do believe that you’re right. I better focus my effort on getting my iNetGlobal business to the next level and just leave this black hole positive energy draining blog to consume itself.
All the best to you Bill and to all forward moving iNetGlobal members! Go Black Diamond!
@Bill
Thanks for promoting civil.
Are you canadian or American? I feel most people here are Canadians and only SY can verify that. We need more Americans to speak up and they know much better than anybody from outside US.
Whatever Bill……thats a JOKE. Steve Renner AND Steve Keough ????? Both are at loggerheads. Are you aure you know what you are talking about dude ??
@Anonim, I accept your apology. I am also a member of Inetglobal and was promoting it much more than you, I can assure you, till we got the jolt and now the information blackout.
The sooner you can differentiate good from bad, the better it will be for you and your downlines
@Bill
Here is what you said, I have quoted below:
Quote: We have lots of money to defend ourselves. Annie is busy in Toronto to recruit new members for funding our legal cause. Canadian Dollar is at par with US Dollar. So it is very good. Don’t panic. Make lots of new members, okay. Don’t waste your energy here and sit tight till you hear more. Unquote:
Just where did you get the info? Can Annie actually recruit new members at this point of time? Or are you inventing it yourself? Even if Annie or anyone who wishes to recruit new members, given accounts are still frozen, how can the money (membership from new members) be properly given to the company? And what do you expect these new members to do at this point of time upon joining? You are inventing a story, are you?
Let him answer it! I want to hear what he is going to say?
“how can the money (membership from new members) be properly given to the company?”
That is a very good point! Where does all this money go to if Inetglobals accounts are frozen? Something to think about! SY
Well ,they did able to recruit members ,they can transfer their money inside the account to the new member and pay the products. and the new member pay cash to them . this system members can transfer money to different members to buy the get in package.
@Muhammad,
it seems that you’re from the Toronto team, do you happen to know Annie Zhang’s Chinese webcast url? You need not to post it here understanding that being not proper. Would it be annie1 or annie2? The #’s seem to differentiate the different webcast? My guess. And if you know the time of when they would take place? I suddenly had the urge to take a look at them. BTW, thanks for posting the previous link, and thanks to SY for allowing it. I did go up there last Sat. and listened, half way through, someone posted a link that somehow linked to my article, i was shocked to find that. Annie spoke very carefully, albeit her broken English, for me I still find it’s difficult to understand her. I would think that she would express more at ease when speaking Chinese and perhaps more open about it. I think your suggestion about “taking a look” is good one. that’s why i’d like to check it out when they have the Chinese webcast, pasw is not an issue, thanks. Hope you find this being a relevant post.
@Christie. Go to anniezhang.com and get all the info. Not sure if SY will allow this link here. If not, just post your e-mail and I will send you the link.
(PS: To the moderator: I am not promoting Inetglobal. Just wanted to pass on the info she requested)
Thanks
@Muhammad,
Thanks Muhammad, got it.
I just took the bit out that converts it into a link
Because, contrary to what many believe, Google measures the value / popularity of a site by looking at the number and types of links the site receives 
SY
You could always use http://www.httrack.com/
or a free trial of camtasia. SY
Hello there,
I am not quite sure why there is an argument going on here but I want to tell a story about iNetGlobal from my perspective. I am 21, live in Canada, Toronto and I have been an iNetGlobal member for 3.5 months already. The first thing I want to say is that, when everyone joins the company, no one EVER reads Terms of Service and Privacy Policy (cause its pretty long to read so no one bothers). The company states that no income guaranteed! Its all up to the person, HOWEVER, if the company has sales on a particular day then you will get your daily commission for surfing your 25 ads. (So, if someone promised you that you will get paid then tell him to go back and read the rules of the company).
I have purchased a $5000 package which stated (by my upline) that I will be earning $44 a day (per 25 surfed sites). This was sort of incorrect cause once again in the rules of the company it says that I will be paid from 0.3% – 0.5%, depending on the company’s sales per day. So, technically I could have been paid $33 at start if company’s sales were crap for the day but I didn’t and I got $42 for my 1st day. Then I kept surfing the web everyday to see if this was really a scam or not. Did it for a month, received my Visa Card from company (6 weeks later) and cashed out my $650 that I have earned for the 1st month of work. GREAT! (I said, and decided that this is working so now I could tell about this to my family, friends, people I know). I signed up my mom and we decided to work together and after 3 months we have earned $13,000 that we have already cashed out and our monthly income together now is $4,000. As well as getting money, I have been using the products of the company which are pretty cool for starting your own business or promoting an existing business + creating traffic to your websites.
From Feb 23rd, major issues with the company have started. I totally understand why, cause some bad people in China decided to create a similar site and scam some people. They have succeeded and scammed 3000 people in China which invested $2000 each so the fake Chinese inetglobal.net.cn company made $600,000 in couple of weeks. PRETTY SICK! So, these Chinese people who invested their money didn’t do anything (cause no one told them anything) and didn’t get paid so they sued the company cause they thought that the Real iNetGlobal scammed them. Therefore, the real iNetGlobal was arrested and getting checked. Because of that crap, 70,000 real iNetGlobal members suffered for a month and still suffering. Because once the American Government froze the iNetGlobal accounts, none of the members could cash out their money. NO ONE! And therefore, people who have joined the company from the period of Feb. 20 – March. 20 (and on) have not seen any money. OBVIOUSLY they will say that they got scammed and lost their money and now will talk so much crap about iNetGlobal. (I mean I would too) So, this is technically not iNetGlobal’s fault that they are unable to pay their members but ITS the circumstances.
I am also pretty pissed on all these circumstances cause me and my mom earned another $4,000 during that period of iNetGlobal being “attacked” from every possible angle and cannot cash them out and PROBABLY, the company will not even pay us these money for the month since the company had to deal with all the court b.s. and didn’t have any sales and once again, if the company doesn’t have sales for the day (in this terms for the month) then no daily commission for us guaranteed. We all signed up for that and agreed on this (without even reading it.)
As for now, all the members are hoping that the court will let unfreeze the accounts of iNetGlobal after 3rd hearing and we will all be back running and earning good money with the company having daily sales as they did before.
FOR THE FACT! Every single BIG network marketing company had to deal with American Government court about being suspected of doing illegal business or a Ponzi scheme and there were many people who got into these companies during that period and were losing all the hopes (thinking that they got scammed). Take a look at Herbalife or Aamway.
Maximus, did you read the affidavit published on this government web site http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/ ? Then you will understand why Inetglobal is under investigation by the FBI. SY
The reasons that Members do not get paid (or paid much less than before) by doing the same clicking work if not more:
1. No products or service sales ???
or
2. No new members enrolment ???
Read between the lines on iNetGlobal’s compensation Plan and their FAQ… Please.
hi Hospitalera,
I don’t understand you just like you don’t understand Inetglobal. We have the same feeling to think about each other. It is fair that we have different point of views.
You pointed out Click Bank is very popular. The more popular company will be more eager to expand into the new markets! If the ads are attatrative, Inetglobal surfers will buy. They are consumers anyway. If they see something they want, they will buy. Click Bank should pay attention of this growing groups of inetglobal customers and find out what they need.
I’m not an employee of Inetlgobal, I’m a regular consumer who eager to learn more about the internet businesses and Inetglobal has been lead me forward.
Inetglobal is antipicating the future e-commerce trends.
Are you??? what do you do for internet market?
Jessica, Patrick Pretty has already explained to you here in the comment section of his blog post http://patrickpretty.com/2010/03/08/timeline-suggests-inetglobal-was-pounding-clickbank-vendors-with-traffic-from-china-while-sucking-bandwidth-and-destroying-conversion-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-9958 why Clickbank vendors don’t want the type of traffic Inetglobal generates. So I will not regurgitate the same information again. SY
Click bank is a independent open business platform, anybody can promote clickbank ,the information you got is not right, no relation between clickbank and inetglobal , inetlgobal just taught you guys how to use clickbank ,just like i can teach people how to make money in the internet. so people go to the click bank ,getting the ads and put it to the inetglobal ratator. nothing fancy about that .
nothing against inetglobal ,actually i think inetglobal is a fair business if some people dont munipulate it .but who really shock me is that i felt most people who join inetglobal just a internet marketing newbie who dont know the real knowledge of it. and think inetglobal is unique out there, if you find some internet guru who make tons of money .he gonns show you some programs are better than inetglobal to make money .so wake up and learning more to succeed. inetglobal just one of the tools for you .not all!
hi Hospitalera,
My letter to judge Frank to support inetglobal, March 21, 2010:
Dear Judge Frank,
My name is Oleg Strilyaniy.
I send you this letter in two languages – Russian and English, because my native language is Russian. I understand very well that a correct translation of any of my word may influence the verdict re: future of iNetGlobal.
I am a citizen of Canada. I have lived and worked in Canada for 9 years. I am a law-abiding citizen and within my 46 years of life have never violated any law.
I got to know iNetGlobal on October 1, 2009, and from my own experience I can say that this company helped me not only to develop my business but also gave me an opportunity to:
1. learn to use the programs for creating my personal web-site: {promotional link removed by blog owner} and enclose information about my business on the company web-server, administer the data: add, delete, edit, make the information accessible for others, etc.
2. use autoresponder to advertise my business not in Canada only but all over the world
3. raise the rating of my web-site in web search engines. That not only gave me more clients, but an opportunity to expand my business, I mean the construction project of Sports and Recreation Center in Toronto.
4. to study by the use of one of the services of the company – catalogue “V-Local”, and I would like to advertise my business in this catalogue.
5. to learn not only to advertise my business, but sell services of the company to other businesses in Canada and abroad.
Unfortunately because of the even of February 26, 2010 my business started to bring losses, because my partners and clients – builders, real estate agents, artists, doctors, cosmetologists are awaiting your verdict.
All my clients know that my business started developing actively from November 2009, owing to a good advertising in Internet and I give a credit to iNetGlobal for that.
I am sure there will be justice, because I know that the USA is a civilized state. I know that iNetGlobal helped me in developing my small business. I hope that my business in Canada will grow and will continue cooperate with the US company iNetGlobal.
I know that you will make a right decision.
Sincerely yours,
Oleg Strilyaniy
Oleg, can you outline please what your business is all about and why it is affected by the recent raid at Inetglobal? SY
My and my clients VISA is block now. I work, but I have no money yet
And your business? What are you selling? SY
probably the comment is not all true. because ratator and acesse search engine is only view by the members instead of public people,and v-local ,you are not advertising so far ,and the service is still need to be evaluated. so the only thing good for you is to build the website. but even though you make the website with the inetglobal v-webs ,that is good .but how can you advertise to let the most people know your business outside the member circle. it is gonna secrets for us.
and the service you mentions is real .but again is depending on the level of education to different people. most people who make money online . those tools is just basic ,nothing fancy. you might be not have many experience with internet marketing , a guy just start learning.
@Oleg
InetGlobal’s ad rotator amd v-local.com are both operational and business as usual claimed by iNetGlobal itself. I know you as a member, do not receive as same amount of iCash as before with longer time clicking. Sure they’re no fun anymore… daily iCash ~ 90% drop for some members.
Isn’t this funny I just received this email even though I never joined INET nor logged in. Matt Renner setup the free account for me so I could get a copy of the comp plan after I had heard it at a meeting and knew it was a Ponzi scheme and illegal.
Did anyone else receive one of these billing notices? Says alot for their computer/billing system.
Dear Mike Maunu (Member #86169),
Your new product purchase on iNetGlobal | Internet Marketing Services is confirmed.
You have purchased “Auto-Pay AP-40″ via iCash.
————
iNetGlobal | Internet Marketing Services
My word, seems they have some serious system glitches. I only wonder how you got the icash? Did Mr. Renner put it in for you? Be careful that they don’t try to build a “trap” for you, making out that you are a member of Inetglobal. Just a hypothesis obviously based on my opinion about Inetglobal
SY
@Mike Maunu,
Mike, you may get more than one of these, usually two, repeated information. They have to be system generated, and in this case it has to be an error.
AP-40 ( $40.00 Auto-Pay), it is for the Gold and Platinum members or above. Since an free account was set for you, I presume it is a Free Surfer account, even if you have joined you will not be required to purchase the AP-40. In fact, I’d imagine some other Free Surfers are getting it as well. I can check with one Free Surfer I know to verify.
And since you have never join neither have put in any money to begin with, it would be impossible to deduct anything out from it. I wouldn’t worry, but in any case, you can always resort to writing yourself a letter documenting what happened and certify mail it to yourself as a protection and leave it sealed, an OLD WAY to handle things as I can’t think of anything better. But I wouldn’t worry.
Here is what just showed up on the member section of iNetGlobal site, which will clear questions you’ve had.
Thank you for your patience and ongoing support. This month we will be giving
everyone their monthly subscriptions (AP-20. AP-40) at no charge.
@Bill
Where do you get your info from?
I personally know Jim Fobair is not involved. He was a consultant for a short time. I spoke with him 3 or 4 days before the raid and was told by him the comp plan sign-off document was coming from Grimes and Reese which it never did.
Steve Allen – I have spoke with him numerous times since the raid. He resigned that week and is off on other ventures.
Steve Keough – He’s definately not with INET. Read the affidavit.
If there really was a sign-off document why wouldn’t you present it to the court?
I will try and capture the webcast and post it on one of my servers for those who cant view it.
That would be great, if you have done so feel free to post the link in a comment! SY
@Oleg
Again, you are confusing the parts of INET that were legitimate. Whether they worked well is another issue I’ll let others answer for as I never used them.
The marketing side is where all the problems are at.
Read my other posts if you still can’t figure it out.
Interesting information YC, but totally false on FACTS.
If anyone is searching for facts, they could try this article
http://patrickpretty.com/2010/03/20/analysis-another-troubled-autosurf-another-bizarre-pr-approach-some-inetglobal-supporters-attack-the-messenger/comment-page-1/#comment-9983
When staff questioned the intrusion of the government agencies, Robert MacQueen, Secret Service Lead Search Agent said, â??This Company (iNetGlobal) is running a Ponzi scheme. We have 3500 Chinese filing a suit that said this.â? Special Agent MacQueen went on to say, â??We have frozen your bank accounts and the â??victims’ will get their money back.â? One of the staff of iNetGlobal questioned the agent â??Isn’t that for the courts to choose? It looks like you have found the company guilty with contempt, prior to investigation.
In closing, the United States of America was founded on hard working individuals that wanted to make a better life for themselves. It seems currently, if an individual is successful the federal government and the ponds they use (Star Tribune) paint an unrealistic picture of entrepreneurial success.
But really, when was the last time you bought a newspaper versus reading your news online?
I feel the Star Tribune newspaper has lacked journalistic integrity in this tale, and in other tales by not allowing their readership the option to see both sides.
http://www.getmetoprankings.com/15065/1804/minneapolis%E2%80%99-star-tribune-newspaper%E2%80%99s-bias-reporting-causes-defamatory-speculation-at-internet-marketing-firm-updated.html
Oleg, the article you linked to is based (see author box) on an article Donald Allen has published earlier on his ibnn.org site. As Donald Allen is part of the management of Inetglobal, I wouldn’t call him an independent source. As for what Robert MacQueen is supposed to have said, what is your source for that? Did you hear him saying it? Did you speak to him? The strange characters appearing in your comment suggest that you copied and pasted it from somewhere, I would very much like to see the source, SY
For Chinese, if someone would like to know more news regarding inetglobal:
More inetglobal upline members have been arrested in China by China’s Gov.
see
http://www.zjscdb.com/newsdisp.asp?id=51950
Thanks, unfortunately I can’t read Chinese and Google translate is still not perfect. Can one of the people here that does speak Chinese give as a short summary and explain the source of information to us? SY
I am Chinese, I can’t read the content either, it may need a special Chinese “font software” to read. Here is another Chinese News web site about Inetglobal. The news was posted on March 11th.
http://news.zj.vnet.cn/08hlxk/system/2010/03/11/016406088.shtml
Here is the saying in English, (the wording may not be so exact because it is not easy to interpret those technical terms.
Title:The China Authority (Hangzhou City) raided “Inetglobal”, an internet MLM case.
On March 8th, the Commercial Department of Hangzhou City was investigating an Internet MLM case and arrested 3 “High Level” members who were conducting illegal internet MLM through INETGLOBAL. These 3 guys had already recruited more than 100 members (downlines) from Shanghai; Hangzhou; Suzhou and etc. It involved more than 1.5 millions RMB (about US$220,000).
The Commercial Dept. together with the Police Dept. raid an add. and found the 3 suspects and some members were clicking the Ad-web in Inetglobal to earn “incomes”.
According to the investigation, new members were recruited by Inetglobal existing member to invest US$2,000 and earn “income”…… (people here should know the trick of the game, not going to repeat here)
According to the “Law of China Government”; “Rules of Illegal MLM” and other related Rules, the 3 suspects were sent to the Police Dept for further action. “End of the News”
According to the News, Inetglobal has already come to an END. Why I am saying that?
I lived in a place adjacent to Mainland China for more than 40 years and know their usual way to deal with criminal cases very well. Once they found you are guilty and take action, no one can escape or resume to normal through appeal. The judges (court) are always on the Police side and even the defending lawyer can’t say “NO”. To my understanding, about 87% Inetglobal members are Chinese from China and Canada. Now, the main source of money (membership investment) are blocked and Inetglobal will not have enough money to pay the uplines. People here should face the truth and stop dreaming. Inetglobal won’t have future and can’t continue it’s so call business without the Chinese supporters.
“Renner stays free pending sentencing for tax evasion”
http://www.startribune.com/local/87726342.html?page=1&c=y
“Frank(U.S. District Judge) required that Renner wear electronic GPS tracking equipment”
COOL!
Correct, but as far as I understand it it was a hearing regarding the “sentencing for tax evasion” in light of the recent developments. I don’t think it was a hearing regarding the Inetglobal investigation itself. But if anybody here has more information, I am glad to hear it, SY
A rough translation
The day before, Jiangong Branch of Industrial and Commercial Bureau in Hangzhou made investigation of a case of pyramid internet marketing and at scene caught 3 “high class members” engaged in illegal internet marketing through “iNetGlobal”.
After investigation, though with these 3 persons only, the influence had already been widespread among Hangzhou, Shanghai, Shouzhou and other cities, with “members” of more than 100 and the money involved reached not less than 1500,000 renminbi. As the case is wide spreading and involves lots of people and money, Jiangong Branch of Industrial and Commercial Bureau, in accordance with the relevant regulations, transferred the case to Police authorities for further handling.
Thanks, I heard Inetglobal supporters claiming that this Chinese Inetglobal is an “impostor” that has nothing to do with the original Inetglobal, anybody any information on this claim? SY
This one is on 21-12-2009 (in Chinese), ironically the date I were deceived
http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:5S6sowPaKacJ:news.sina.com.cn/c/2009-12-21/014716804241s.shtml
Too long to translate, in gist, Police Bureau WANRS people not to join inetglobal (formal notice on their website dated 10-12-2009)
Can I post some links in Chinese in case someone cannot read English very well? (caption title translated)
iNetGlobal marketing Ponzi Scheme investigated by FBI & bank account frozen
http://bbs.news.163.com/bbs/photo/167697641.html
iNetGlobal illegal MLM developed for 2 years without sanction
http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/free/1/1753725.shtml
CAUTION for the seepage of iNetGlobal in our City
http://www.byga.gov.cn/E_ReadNews.asp?NewsID=2039
DO NOT TRUST Deceiver iNetGlobal which is devastating
http://www.315fp.net/news/48/17957.html
??????? Anti MLM Association in China
http://www.fcxxh.org/
Inetglobal spreads also in Taiwan (http://inetglobal.mlm8.com/). That website (without their usual logo however) is alleged to have developed by a successful team of them and this website, unlike the English one with translation, is purely in Chinese. They introduce that inetglobal was established in 1998, an internet service provider and a business of free advertising, click and earn which makes dreams come true. To buy the kit at $59.95 and pay from $250-5000, one can use their services at http://www.inetsurf.com, http://www.acesse.com, http://www.v-local.com &www.beaper.com. They seem to have modified the system by adding something like AdCredits, Preferred Customers, a sale condition of 51% and start with news like “inetglobal in Taiwan in 2010”, also with freedom conference in New York and other places. Attractive picture of Visa cash card is shown and they say after registration, you can get it in about 45 days. A red sticker is on the card to remind you to activate your card, call 888-257-2777, option 3. They even tell those downlines with poor English to seek help from their referrers. There is a time coincidence of maintenance of the system as announced from 25th Feb to 9th March, too.
That sad. that is not the facts that inetglobal is illegal . the reason is simple. chinese government will arrest any business if is not registered with the state even is legal in any other country. so lets not take that into account.
TO all you inetglobal HATERS…NOTHING has been decided on the fate of inetglobal sooooo that means your deep seeded ENVIOUS wishes have NOT come true yet! Yes, the company is being investigated and a hearing has already come and gone but NOTHING for YOU to CELEBRATE… Sorry to disappoint you all (INETGLOBAL HATERS that is) who were jumping with joy when the government raided the company but NOWWWWWWW you are all CONFUSED and NOT sure if your celebration was premature… Renner is free and inetglobal is still operating…
Yes, Steve Renner is free, but he is awaiting sentencing for tax evasion ( up to 5 years) and has to wear a GPS tracking device by court order. As for Inetglobal still being operational, if they still sign people up, where goes the money too as their bank accounts are frozen. And as these bank accounts are frozen, do you think it is fair that they still seem to sign people up without knowing if these people will be ever be able to get their “investment” back? SY
What a funny name . another bad example who make money already and will say anything to help him continue make money without telling information based on the truth. that is the most people behavior.
got to say what is the real information out there. i think inetglobal is fair business to people .But many people would lies the story in order to make money. that is not good at all.
and we should make money from good way not a ponzi scheme way .
I have had it in my post before, that a FAKE CHINESE Inetglobal company (http://www.inetglobal.net.cn/) scammed around 3,000 people who paid $2,000 each. If you go to their site, you will see all these MAKE BIG MONEY FAST BANNERS and other b.s. Their site was launched (http://serversiders.com/inetglobal.net.cn) at the end of 2009 and I found a small blog about someone asking if inetglobal.net.cn (http://moneyonlinereport.blogspot.com/2009/12/is-inetglobalnetcn-scam.html) was a scam and then referring to this hospitalera blog. So, I guess these 3 Chinese people that were arrested, created the fake inetglobal site.
Yes, I heard that before, but do you actually have a proof that they were not Inetglobal consultants? That is the point I am making, SY
I think those people are member before. but they create their own sites trying to make money for whatever reason.
and the people who got arrested in china is not because of them creating the sites ,but because of doing this business that is barred from state
No I don’t have any proof but I am pretty sure they WERE Inetglobal consultants but that doesn’t mean that its the Inetglobal’s fault cause the company doesn’t carry any responsibility for their consultants. For example, they could have joined the real inetglobal, got all the information. Then created their own site, and using the original information of the real inetglobal company, they have linked the new people to join their own site and therefore got all the investment money. That’s most likely what happened.
What makes you think that they didn’t use their site to refer people to the real Inetglobal? And cashed in on the referral / sign-up fee just as Inetglobal consultants do / did? SY
I am pretty sure that this is the Branch of Inetglobal in China. According to the news (in Chinese), when the police raided an address (in China), they found the members were clicking the advertisement on Inetglobal web site to earn “incomes”. Also, the description of the way of the game is exactly the same as the Inetglobal (USA). Chinese are smart, they did create some similar illegal web sites to make money. I read a Chinese News sometime before, these “similar web” sites were condemned and some people were arrested. Quite interesting, that news also mentioned that “Inetglobal” was concerned and under monitoring.
iNetGlobal did have a statement put out on their website sometimes near the end of last year, stating that the similar Chinese site (iNetGlobal.net.cn) is not affiliated in any way with iNetGlobal.com in the U.S.A., and also members were told not to advertise iNetGlobal business with their own websites unless consent by the Company.
Never saw that, was it publicly visible or in a members only area? And has Steve Renner ever issued any press release regarding this? What has he done to protect his “brand” Inetglobal if this Chinese site was really an impostor? Which legal measures has he taken against them? SY
@SY,
Yes, you.re right, the statement from iNetGlobal to differentiate itself from the Chinese site (inetglobal.net.cn) was put up in the member-only section and only can be seen after one signs in.
iNet’s msg to inform the members not to advertise the iNet business with their own wording on their own website unless consent by the Company came as an open email from Steve Renner to all members. If I recall correctly, the email came at end of last October or beginning of November. It should have occurred to them from that point on things were beginning to spin out of control.
But your point and Mike Maunu’s point are well taken. Why didn’t they defend themselves or their entity publicly.
With regards to inetglobal,net.cn, though having no prove, I do believe it is an independent happening; the members who initialized inetglobal.net.cn might have been members from iNetGlobal.com, from where they picked up the system and somehow re-entertained the notion of doing it again and making their own bucks.
What is interesting is when re-reading the affidavit which can be found here http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/ it says
“49. Keough said he had an iNetGlobal employee conduct an analysis to determine the member liability. The employee reported back to Keough that at least 87% of the company’s revenue was generated from sale of memberships to members residing in China.”
So, that was an Inetglobal employee stating that they did sell memberships to people residing in China.
And if I look at http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/inetglobal.com China is on third place to provide traffic to the inetglobal.com website, just short after the USA and Canada, all three are in the 20+% range of the overall website traffic. What do you make out of this? SY
SY
Also, go back and read Renner’s own apologies to the Clickbank sites about the traffic coming from China and that he would see that it didn’t happen anymore. I don’t remember all the details and haven’t reread it.
And your statements about protecting the “brand” is right on.
In December he files a preliminary lawsuit against you instead of being proactive in defending the brand and warning anyone or trying to stop the “fake” website.
Something smells fishy?
Very true, nearly forgot about that one. Here the forum links for others to see / read http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1511602 SY
PS So far the lawsuit has not been filed, only a summons and complaint and answer to it have been exchanged. Might be that Mr. Renner has something more urgent to do then getting involved in yet another lawsuit?
Man ,that was easy to answer. because they can start their own business and doing whatever they want. but not sure about they charge people 2 thousand to get in.
If they would have used their site to refer people to real inetglobal then people wouldn’t complain that they are not getting paid. Instead, these people joined thru inetglobal.net.cn (which has the exact same sign up process except with diff layout) and after people joined, they started complaining that they haven’t received a single penny. Where in the real inetglobal, they would have started receiving the money on the next day.
Also, I didn’t quite get what did you mean by saying “cashed in on the referral / sign-up fee just as Inetglobal consultants do / did”? Cause in real inetglobal, when you bring a person, the company gives you the fast start bonus for bringing a person.
Also, thanks for that affidavit, I have read it but I still don’t get what is illigal in inetglobal. I mean, the company has a product, even 2 products. 1 is services they offer, 2nd is traffic. Yes, they have a referral thing going on, but its like in an MLM company. A person who gets into the company buys the product for $60 (becoming a consultant), he can create a website, get it hosted and so on. 2nd, if the person wants to earn rebates from the company’s sales, they buy another product which is TRAFFIC. TRAFFIC are these ad-packs for either 250, 500, 1000, 2000 or 5000 dollars. So, what is illigal if the company has products that people use (or may not use cause they don’t care about the product but just want to make money). Please explain this to me. Thanks
Maximus, the points you mentioned have been discussed ad nauseam on this blog post, just take the time and read through the comments section and you will find a lot of valuable information about the illegality of pyramid / Ponzi schemes, SY
TO OLEG STRILYANIY:
HI OLD MUG!!! HOW’Z'GOIN’? MARIUPOL IS ON AIR!!!
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MY REGARDS
What has your comment to do with the discussion on this blog post and why do you “yell” at us by writing all in CAPITAL letters? SY
O My God! Vadim!!!!! how many years? how many winters?
send me letter to my e-mail!
I’ve been a member of Inetglobal since early February (2K payment). To this day I have not received my card or a penny. The credit card company wont back me up because technically the terms and conditions are met by Inetglobal.
As much as I’d like my money back, its sad, very sad to see this company still operate. Especially when this company makes changes such has the most recent, which is the increased time on clicking, as well as rating the site. You can only view the next site after rating the one thats been viewed. Furthermore they are using the turning no. feature so that its actual people clicking (just more waste of time). I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m making what $0.80 a day currently. The feds should just outright shut them down or increase the speed of this judicial process. They have these other upper end consultants going around promising that its not a ponzi scheme, and just giving false hope to the down-line users like myself. Whats worse is people are STILL recruiting and its always family or friends (as it was for me). I wish I could get my money back, but no biggie.
All in all, for new people doing “research” on Inetglobal, I’d like to do the honest thing here and tell you to STAY far away from it. As for the people recruiting you to it, you’ll know their true colours, as even with the current situation at Inetglobal, they are recruiting you.
Yes, I am also wondering about this “still recruiting” business. The ones that do that, might find themselves in very deep legal trouble down the line, depending how honest they are in their sales pitch. Do they tell people that Inetglobal is currently under investigation when signing them up? I am pretty sure that not. As for the “feds should just outright shut them down or increase the speed of this judicial process.” The feds can’t do that, that can only be done by a court decision. And to get this, the feds have to prepare a water proof case, that proves the suspicions against Inetglobal, and that will take time. SY
Yes I have witnessed this activity “First Hand” where paper applications were being handed out to fill in details, hard cash taken in exchange of iCash tranferred to “Set Up” accounts and so on. Black Diamonds are still harping that all is well. They seem so jolted, since all income for them has drastically dropped in the last month. One went ahead and bought a million-dollar home, hoping to pay it off in the next few years. We even had a party in that house late January
Steve Renner has instructed all the Black Diamond members to garner support letters written in favor of Inetglobal addressed to Judge Frank. Also they have been asked to raise money to cover his legal fees. That logically explains why they are still recruiting new members.
@Muhammad,
reading from what you said, I have more questions:
1) How or via what channel does the money (from new recruits) go from the Black Diamonds to the Company?
2) If they were to raise money for “his legal fees”, given accounts are still frozen, it almost require one to deliver the money in person, and since the Black Diamonds (or members with highest earnings) are not at all living in the same region, how do they coordinate their money transfer? Will they have to give the money all to one or two person before forward them to the Company?
3) If all via iCash, then iCash eventually has to transfer out of some Black Diamond’s accounts with iNeetGlobal, those who are capable must have a lot of iCash online and lot of hard cash in the bank. Are we supposed to understand that this is different from lending or chipping in but rather proper business earning for the Company and for some Black Diamonds?
4) If that is so, what happens when the iCash runs out from one’s account? I wouldn’t think anyone especially Black Diamonds (with either common logic or greed) would keep overwhelming iCash in one’s account and not to cash out. Enough iCash to fund some remote recruiting is understandable, but not overwhelming amount of iCash. We’re talking about a rather large legal case iNetGlobal and Renner are facing. So what happens if the iCash runs out, it can’t go endless?
5) I’m aware Renner had an email sent out to leaders encouraging rather than requesting testimonials from members and asking these testmonial letters to be sent to lawyer Mark Kallenbach, which were to be later forwarded to Judge Frank. That email from Renner was sent to three (3) leaders only and was later forwarded to other leaders then to their downlines. Are there emails from Renner instructing Black Diamonds to raise money for his legal fee? Or was that “instruction”, if any, given in some other ways? Couldn’t be the Black Diamonds themselves initialized the move?
6) If continue to recruit while the Company is in a dorm mode, who over sees this phase of operation? Specifically, to what percentage is the collection of funds divided for what goes to the Company and what goes to the Black Diamonds (who rightfully earn them as commissions)? Who is going to enforce the regulations here? It couldn’t be a no-man-land in that anything goes? So who is that someone to make sure things are going according to plan?
@ Christie
Your level of curiosity and in-depth knowledge about Inetglobal, is commendable. Based on what you are asking, here are the possibilities of who you could really be: and I have made suggessions accordingly:
1. You could be an insider: I suggest you ask these questions to the man himself….(Or your boss..LOL)
2. A SA as indicated in the affidavit: A public blog is an opinion forum, not a place to hunt for reliable information.
3. Regular Inetglobal Member: You know as much as I do. I am only stating what I experienced.
4. A Black Diamond Member: Then you know way more than us…and should educate all as to whats going on !! You also know who is the main link between Canadian and US operations of Inetglobal. How long does it take for a flight between Toronto and Minneapolis, to exchange the goodies ??????
5. A curious on-looker…Not a possibility with your level of knowledge about Steve Renner and Inetglobal
So which category do you belong ? Scores of people got burnt in this melee. Some parted with their months and months of savings. The need of the hour is to show sensitivity to the victims and empathize. I would love to seek the same answers you are seeking. If you know more than us, we would be really grateful if you could educate the rest.
Hi Victor,
When you buy the $2000 adpacs, you own a piece of space on Inetlgobal virtual market. You can register a domain,building a website, and promote your website through Inetsurf, Acesse and V-local. If the government unfreeze the Inetglobal Bank account, you can click and earn rebates and you will get your money back; otherwise,you still can use the products you have bought. Don’t worry, be happy. May be this is the chance for you to learn how to become a internet business owner from Inetglobal, if you learn from other source, you will pay so much more, and you may not get it. But with Inetlgobal, you see the other comments, many members have successful story with Inegtlobal products and services. Please go to your team training. learn and be a qualified Inetlgobal consultant. Just complaining can’t help you to solve your problem, you have to take some time and learn what you have bought.
Lol, Jessica, do you know how much I pay for web hosting an unlimited number of domains at Hostgator? $100/year for as many web sites I want to host with them. And that includes the whole range of software from blogs, to forums, to website builders, to email, to list building tools, all included in the price. So, why on earth should I pay 20xtimes more if the only difference is, that with Inetglobal I get a bunch of non-buying traffic thrown in? As for learning internet marketing / becoming an internet business owner, there are a lot of places out there where you can learn all that for free! SY
carefully read:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/downloads/Redacted%20Corrected%20Affidavit%20of%20Wespetal.pdf
On or about November 7, 2010, Renner hired Keough to be iNetGlobal’s CEO.
Keough said, “I never really understood how it could work.” Keough further stated that Renner used the misleading information in power point presentations and
webinars to recruit others.
Keough believed he had been fired because he continually questioned iNetGlobal’s business practices.
Are you finally starting to see the light? SY
Victor, I feel for you man…. I’m in the same situation as you….
My buddy, my family, my room-mates, their family and friends…. No one has seen a single penny from Inetglobal.
And Jessica, you ask me why I never cashed out? CUZ I’M STILL WAITING FOR MY V-CASH CARD!!! Same with everyone else I know!!! It’s been 4 months! How long does it take to mail something? I buy from ebay ALL THE TIME, and it’s NEVER taken me 4 MONTHS to get something!
So I stand by what I say…. DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL…. DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL…. DO NOT JOIN INETGLOBAL!!!! IT’S A SCAM!!!! I don’t want ANYONE losing their hard-earned money to this crap company so that’s why I’m posting my message EVERYWHERE…. And I will continue posting it everywhere!!!
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU BRUCE. DON’T JOIN INETGLOBAL……………REPEAT DON’T JOIN INETGLOBAL……….LISTEN TO THE VICTIMS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Be patient my friend. Wait till case is ended.
Back in January, the person who recruited me has shown me his V-Cash card. He joined in December and made over $5000 dollars. Starting end of February, all V-Cash cards are on hold because accounts are blocked and until the case is closed, the cards won’t arrive. That’s why you didn’t get your V-Cash card.
Hi Victor,
you should order a cheque or order the bank wire, there were two more ways to cashout. Normally, you could received the cheque in 3 weeks and you could get the wire money in 2 weeks. Lots of members were doing these and no problem. I wonder why you don’t know how to cashout your money. Are you really an inetglobal member??? And the point is, you didn’t get the money, not because the company was not giving to you, it was the US government. The US government block the everything. If you are the member, you should tell the US government to unfreeze the Inetglobal bank accounts and give the money back to the members.
Hi hospitalera,
Thank you to introduce consumers about Hostager . That is good. But if you don’t tell them, they will find it just like “ find a needle in the sea”. Majority small business owners are lack of internet skills. They don’t have enough time and resources to find the correct information they need. I’m a small business owner and I haven’t learnt a lot of computer skill in the school. It is very difficult for me to set the online business by myself. I have no clue where to start. Lots of my friends have the same feeling, until they have Inetglobal. They need and they want a comprehensive platform just like Inetlgobal which has orangized with a variety of products and services at same place, all the tools are handy and user friendly.
With Inetglobal, members can use the selp-help system, easily set up their independent platform for themselves: from registering domains, building up websites, using V-mail, promoting through Inetsurf, V-local and Acesse. They have chance to promote their busiesses free of charge by surfing others ads or bringing sales for the company. When all members gathers, they are potential customers, businesses and services suppliers. Besides, Inetglobal teachs members baout the internt related knowledge through the online training system. All members learn all skills and become the personal trainer for newer members they bring in.
Sooner or later, an international Inetlgobal community will form. Here, individuals and small businesses related to each other and help each other.
Inetglobal is designed to help the 70-80% majority individuals and small businesses which have the need to learn about internet marketing. Inetglobal collects the key internet marketing products for members and promote with a super super advanced business model.
It is the best internet services providers for a lot of individuals and small businesses. Please take a deep look of it and you will agree with me.
Not a “needle in the haystack” at all, they turn up on Google’s first page when you search for “web hosting”. And there are a lot more, also very reputable, web hosting companies out there, that offer similar products / services in the same price range as Hostgator Do you find it ethical that Inetglobal charges 20xtimes the price for basically the same products? That is, when you only look at their products, and don’t see their membership fee structure. Do you see what is happening? The memberships are the main product that Inetglobal sells, not the internet services, as they are vastly overpriced. If you lack internet skills, it is never too late to learn them, a great, free place to learn about (nearly) everything is http://wikipedia.org I am sure you find articles also in your native language
SY
what you say is not reasonable to me, people like iNetGlobal, they are comfortable with them, why you “force” them to pick a harder one, iNetGlobal gave small business not only services, and also promotion for the website, that’s important to small business, what the company you introduced could offer? also when you talk about learning computer skill, we are not lazy to learn, we don’t know where to start, when you say “search web hosting”, even those, to many small business owner, after search, they still don’t know which one is fit for them, no matter what, we can not get same help from those company as from our up lines, and the company’s training, iNetGlobal opened our eyes, About price, as business owner, we know which one is worth more(over price to you, not to people like us, no time to goback school, no time to keep calling the technician, and deal with different issue), from service package point and what we could get, the whole thing whole package, compare with we have to hire people to build up website, and spend a lot money to promote website, and from any points, we know which is better to us, we picked iNetGlobal.
btw are you getting commission from those companies?
Letter to iNetGlobal attorney, Mark Kallenbach
iNetGlobal Raid and Seizure Unfair and Unjust
Dear Mr. Kallenbach, ….
…
THANK YOU. KEN HAUGEN, DAVENPORT, IOWA (QUAD CITIES).
Oleg, this letter by Ken Haugen has been copied and pasted allover the internet. No need to put it up here also. If somebody is interested in reading it, just google the text I left in the comment. And please, I am always interested to hear YOUR opinion, but don’t copy and paste simply what others have written, SY
I think inetglobal is a fair business ,but some people make big money over it and turn it to a money game.all the products are pretty good to have and you can invest little money to have those service. not all the hype by the company ,but the people. so blame the human being. and find out what i do here i thought is great business. {link removed by blog owner}
I continue to hear the Renner has made $65 million dollars in Internet Marketing. Where is it?
From what I’ve read they didn’t seize his personal accounts only the business accounts.
When the Court Appointed trustee came looking for the $2.5 million in the other Ponzi case where he was supposed to have the money in the Cash Cards Account he didn’t have the money. He admitted he spent other peoples money.
It appears he doesn’t have the $300K+ the IRS say he owes them or he would have paid i and made some kind of deal. Read the indictment and the court case.
Why does he have to have the distributors raise money for the company’s defense? If he has made all this money he should spend his own to save the company.
I haven’t seen anything where he is personally defending himself, only the corp.
You defender’s really need to open your eyes.
The company even can’t hire a good lawyer lol
This lawyer has been cited for professional misconduct by a state disciplinary authority.
http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/55416-mn-mark-kallenbach-1659173.html
Who did not make mistakes during life?
That was back to 1995.
@ Dennie lol
Another attorney is representing INET in this case http://www.felhaber.com/people/bio_hopemanj.asp?lastname=Hopeman
Renner’s attorney, Jon Hopeman, told Frank that no crime was committed at iNetGlobal or Inter-Mark. Hopeman said that he initially viewed Renner’s businesses “with some considerable skepticism.” But after researching the company, Hopeman said, “I have become convinced, your honor, that this is a legitimate business that sells real services, Internet services.”
They did sell real services and they recruited people in a manner that that isn’t. You think they would hire an experienced MLM attorney to defend the compensation plan which is the crux of the case. You have an attorney here who has no MLM experience at all according to his bio. It would be real easy to hoodwink him with all the services INET does sell that are just like any other service provider. However, that is not what the government is arguing.
I was told by Renner and others at INET that I would receive a sign-off document from Grimes & Reese in regards to the comp plan. I was told by their mgmt team that they had been in INET’s offices for 4-days and that this document would be coming. Where is it people?
I have even told someone inside the company as late as yesterday that if they could produce it I would be the first to say I was wrong. Still no document or reply.